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Month: April 2021

Nat Peterson — conversations about music, business, wrestling, politics, and mindfulness

Between Two Deferns Podcast Episode #6 – Nat Peterson – conversations about music, business, wrestling, politics, and mindfulness

In this episode Mike & Heather talk with Nat Peterson about … pretty much everything! It was originally 2 1/2 hours long, cut down to about an hour!

Some of the things we talk about …

-singing into a hairbrush
-inherent drama vs learned technical
-A.D.D – didn’t start medication until his 30’s
-fears and misconceptions around starting our own business
-wrestling obsession
-Nat started wrestling
-started promoting shows (created his own shows)
-songwriting / David Bowie
-church – may the force be with you
-spirituality
-kindness
-“resist a cruel impulse”
-the quest for fellowship
-extremes
-“it doesn’t matter how right you are if you’re pushing people away”
-addiction is lack of connection, AA forces you to connect with others = waking up and “filling the hole”
-true evil?
-social media and wanting people to like me
-caught up trying to change people’s minds
-“oh, I didn’t know I could be friends with a liberal”
-“I felt so betrayed by the stereotypes”
-why can’t we all get along!
-cheap shots vs the long game
-how to feel good without being destructive

That’s Nat singing at the end of the podcast with a band called Reign of Zaius

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You can find links and more at
https://michaeldefern.com/podcast/

Mike & Heather’s music
https://parkwaysouthband.com

Mike & Heather’s business
https://zenmantis.com/

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Music in Mindfulness and Everyday Life

I was on a podcast recently, Mindfulness Mode with Bruce Langford. I wanted to post it here on the blog because he did an amazing job of getting me to articulate some things that I’ve struggled to say in the past. (Thank you Bruce!)

In particular, this would may be helpful for people who have struggled with addiction, but we also get into the idea of nurturing that feeling of connection in business, marketing, and performing.

There’s lot’s great stuff on his website – he’s been at this for a long time.

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Tanner Scott – Earth ships, being intentional & having fun while eating well

Between Two Deferns Podcast Episode #5 – Tanner Scott – Earth ships, being intentional & having fun while eating well

In this episode Mike & Heather talk with Tanner Scott, a health coach and food & travel enthusiast. He has talks about his transformation, learning to “tweak his life” for optimum enjoyment, and risking a good corporate job to go out on his own. He has some great practical tips as well!

Some of the things we talk about …

-why the harmonica is so awesome
-waffle brownies
-skinny doesn’t mean healthy
-originally went to Belmont, wanted to be in the music biz
-building earth ships in New Mexico
-living off the grid for a month
-creative reuse- the Turnip Green
-“We are all capable of living the life we truly desire. It all starts with loving ourselves enough to try.”
-being intentional vs reacting
-mindfulness – 14 day email prompts
-setting alarms for when to eat
-we’re not really and more advanced than dogs …?
-advice about eating (to avoid making bad choices)
-no one size fits all
-Tanner uses insight timer mediation app
-Mike uses Waking Up app (Sam Harris)
-Why Tanner is so excited about meditation
-meditation is like a cigarette break
-Twerking yoga in Hawaii
-practice until it starts working = self awareness grows
-meditation can be like a drug
-intention starts with awareness
-left a really good job and took a chance starting his own business
-helped his mom lose like 50 pounds
-“this isn’t about me, it’s about empowering you”
-really cool tip for drinking more water
-urine color … he knows too much about that
-stories from being an experiences coordinator with living social
-the food in New Zealand
-hiking on a narrow mountain path in Peru and having to poop

book a free first conversation with Tanner
http://ComeAliveHealthCoaching.com

connect with Tanner on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/tanner.scott.9803

that’s Tanner playing the harmonica at the end of the episode!

Make sure to subscribe to our podcast “Between Two Deferns” wherever you listen to podcasts – iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, etc

You can find links and more at
https://michaeldefern.com/podcast/

Mike & Heather’s music
https://parkwaysouthband.com

Mike & Heather’s business
https://zenmantis.com/

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